Tuesday, July 2, 2013

Re-scoping a rifle..... your thoughts?


My 30-06 Mauser hunter is showing some astounding accuracy, like a tendency to make single wide holes at 100 yards.  A few days ago I stretched it out to extended ranges, and found that it carries the trend, making small groups out well past where I can realistically see, using the cheap 4x optic mounted on it.




I think it's time for better glass, and I am considering this:

 Nikon ProStaff 3-9 x 40 Black Matte Riflescope (BDC)

Thoughts?  Suggestions?  Moral imperatives?

The price range is 'around' $200, high magnification is not critical, 9 or 10x is fine. Low end, lower is better.  I'm liking the BDC reticule, but can work with a plex or dot just fine.

What say you?


15 comments:

Charlie Jones said...

I have the Prostaffs and Zeiss scopes. For the money I would go with the Nikon. There is not enough difference in resolution, color, or light gathering to justify a higher end scope. And, as a serious amateur photographer, I am not impressed with other brands such Leopold

That Guy said...

I have been having really good luck with the new Leupold made Redfields. Great glass.

Ken Richards said...

Sir:

After following you for years...being schooled on the nuances of reloading...inspired by your spirit...(oh, I do go on)...

You have asked a question which I feel I can help answer with some authority.

My Opinion: the yardage "circles" on the vertical wire of the Nikon BDC reticle are too massive in the literal sense of the word. They occlude too much of the POA periphery. 4 years ago I purchased the similarly priced Burris Fullfield II 3-9 x 40 with the Ballistic Plex reticle. The holdover ticks are not quite as svelte as those on the Leupold B&C ($$$) or the Zeiss Rapid-Z ($$$$$) but I have had very good luck at ranges to 500 yards. Of course, I only use the ticks as reference. I shoot my favored loads at measured ranges and then memorize the trajectory relative to the marks at each range. (Eg: "100 yds= +1"; 200 yds= +0.5"; 300 yds= -1.5" etc.)

Try it.

And thank you for years of wicked wit and valuable info.


Ken Richards

Peter said...

I have two of those Nikon 3-9x BDC scopes, and like them very much.

For lower-power cartridges like the .30-30, I use the 2-7x Nikon Prostaff scopes, which don't have the BDC reticle, but don't really need it at the shorter ranges for which such cartridges are suitable.

Overall, I regard the Nikon Prostaff range as the best value for money in scopes right now.

Bubblehead Les. said...

In the 1995 Gun Digest, Rob Lucas wrote an article about putting a $600 Scope on a $200 gun. Very Thought provoking.

My question is this: Why limit yourself? If that Mauser is that accurate, and it sounds like it's never going to be sold off, why not put the BEST scope you can afford on it? Yes, we all have an "Upper Limit" on what we can afford (or else we'd all be driving Aston-Martins!), and we should take advantage of any Deals we can get, but don't limit yourself to a $200 price range if you could afford a better scope for $3-500. So what if it's on an old Rifle? It's YOUR eyes that need to shoot it, so give yourself the best option you can afford.

Carteach said...

Les, your point is a good one. The $200 price range is what this old unemployed bum can afford.

Rev. Paul said...

What Peter said. I have the Nikon Prostaff BDC 3x9, and love it.

JohninMd.(too late?!??) said...

I believe your choice is sound, and should do as Ken suggested, shooting at known ranges. But instead of trying to memorize the details, use of he sniper trick of making up a range card and keep it with the rifle(or tape it to stock under clear tape as they do)

Carteach said...

Lots of good thoughts folks, and thank you! I'll be making up my mind this week, and ordering something.

Terrapod said...

Carteach

I have a spare 3-9X32 that came with my Turk air rifle. If you want to play with it, send my your mail addy to terrapod (numerals)nine nine (no spaces) A T yahoo and I will send it to you just for fun.

Carteach said...

Terrapod, mighty nice offer, and thank you. This trip, I'm just looking for one really good one. I have other scopes around, but this rifle deserves better than it has on it now.

drjim said...

I have several Nikon scopes on everything from a 22LR to a 12 ga slug gun to my Marlin 336.

I love them all!

I'll admit to being a bit biased towards Nikon optics as that's what I use to shoot photos with, but out of the several thousand rounds I've fired out of each gun, not once has the scope shifted or the reticle moved.

The scope that came with my Marlin 336 lasted about 200 rounds.....

Old NFO said...

For a low end scope, it's pretty good. FWIW...

Cory from TX said...

As a previous poster stated the ProStaff reticle is a bit thick.

You can pick up a good Leupold VX-II 3-9X40 for 200 bucks from the samplelist website run by SWFA. There is one listed there now and I have bought their demo scopes before and had good luck with them.

I have had ProStaffs and they are just fine for rimfire but I think that a thinner reticle for longer distances is a better option.

Rabbit said...

The Browning BLR I just bought has a Nikon Monarch 3x9 on it. Unfortunately, it's not a BDC, but the more I look through it the better I like it for what it is. I still haven't had time to go shoot with it, but I think it'll be juuuust fiiine.